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Samsung Q60R vs RU8000 Review (QN49Q60R vs UN49RU8000, QN55Q60R vs UN55RU8000, QN65Q60R vs UN65RU8000, QN75Q60R vs UN75RU8000, QN82Q60R vs UN82RU8000)

by on October 9, 2019
 



Samsung Q60R vs RU8000 Review

Overview

Samsung Q60R is the lowest model of the Samsung’s 2019 QLED TV lineup. Actually, there is the Q50R as the lowest model, but this model only comes in one screen sizes option, which is 32 inches. So, if you search the bigger size, the Q60R is the lowest series. Meanwhile, if we refer to its market name, the Q60R is the successor of the 2018’s Q6FN. On the other hand, the Samsung RU8000 is the highest model of the Samsung’s 2019 non QLED TV. In this lineup, it sits between the Q60R/Q50R and RU7100. And if we refer to its market name, it is the successor of the RU8000.

In the market, they both come with a number of screen sizes option. Except the 43 inches model for Q60R (QN43Q60R), they both come with the same screen size option. From the smallest, there is 49 inches (QN49Q60R vs UN49RU8000), 55 inches (QN55Q60R vs UN55RU8000), 65 inches (QN65Q60R vs UN65RU8000), 75 inches (QN75Q60R vs UN75RU8000), and the largest is 82 inches (QN82Q60R vs UN82RU8000). Meanwhile, with the same screen sizes, the Q60R is priced hundreds of dollar more expensive then the RU8000. So, what are their differences and which one have better value for money?

Short Review of Samsung Q60R and RU8000

Samsung Q60R vs RU8000 Specification

Technology and Features Samsung Q60R Samsung RU8000
Screen Size Available 43 inches (QN43Q60RFXZA) 49 Inches (UN49 Q60RFXZA), 55 Inches (UN55 Q60RFXZA), 65 Inches (UN65 Q60RFXZA), 75 Inches (UN75 Q60RFXZA), and 82 Inches (UN82 Q60RFXZA) 49 Inches (UN49RU8000 FXZA), 55 Inches (UN55RU8000 FXZA), 65 Inches (UN65RU8000 FXZA), 75 Inches (UN75RU8000 FXZA), and 82 Inches (UN82RU8000 FXZA)
Resolution 4K (3840 x 2160) 4K (3840 x 2160)
Panel Technology VA Panel VA Panel
Panel Form Flat Flat
Backlight Technology Edge Lit LED (Ultra Slim Array) Edge Lit LED (Ultra Slim Array)
Local Dimming Technology No No
Dimming Technology Supreme UHD Dimming UHD Dimming
Processor Quantum Processor 4K 4K UHD Processor
HDR Quality Quantum HDR 4K HDR
HDR Supports HDR10, HLG, HDR10+ HDR10, HLG, HDR10+
Color Technology Quantum Dot Technology Dynamic Crystal Color
UHD Up-Scaling 4K AI Up-scaling UHD Up-Scaling
Motion Technology Motion Rate 240 (43 and 49 Inches: Motion Rate120) Motion Rate 240 (49 Inches: Motion Rate120)
Native Refresh Panel 120 Hz (43 and 49 inches: 60 Hz) 120 Hz (49 inches Model : 60 Hz)
VRR Technology Yes (FreeSync) (43 and 49 inches: No) Yes (FreeSync) (49 Inches : No)
Smart TV Platform Tizen 2019 Tizen 2019
Processor Quad Core Quad Core
Google Home Support Yes (Device Sold Separately) Yes (Device Sold Separately)
Amazon Alexa Support Yes Yes
Remote Smart Remote (TM1950C) Smart Remote (TM1950A)
Speaker Channel 2 2
Total Sound Output 20 watts 20 watts
HDMI Ports 4 4
HDMI Supports HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwidth, CEC, HDCP 2.2 HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwidth, CEC, HDCP 2.2
USB 2.0 2 2
USB 3.0 No No

Features and Technology of Samsung Q60R and RU8000

Panel Technology

IPS vs VA Panel

Samsung RU8000 and Q60R use the same panel technology. They both use VA (Vertical Alignment) panel technology. As we have known, a TV with VA panel usually have good native contrast ratio. But on the other hand, they have poor side viewing angle. Meanwhile, they both use Edge lit LED as their backlight technology. But unfortunately, they both don’t have local dimming technology. And as the instead, they both have software-based dimming system called UHD dimming for improving black produced by them.

Motion Technology

Except their 49 inches model or smaller (QN43Q60R, QN49Q60R, UN49RU8000), to maximize their performance in handling motion, the Samsung Q90R and RU8000 are powered by Motion Rate 240 based on native 120 Hz refresh rate panel. Nevertheless, they both also support FreeSync VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) panel. In VRR mode, at 1080p and 1440p resolution, their refresh rate ranges between 20 Hz -120 Hz, while at 4K resolution, their refresh rate ranges between 48 Hz – 60 Hz. This feature is able to improve their game experience with screen tearing-free.

Meanwhile, to dim their backlight, the Samsung QU8000 and NU8000 both use PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) dimming system. Nevertheless, their dimming frequency is depending on the setting. In “Movies” mode with “Auto Motion Plus” disabled, their dimming frequency is 240 Hz. But even so, if you set the TV’s mode other than “Movies”, their dimming frequency drops to 120 Hz. Additionally, set the “Auto Motion Plus” to either “Auto” or “Custom” also makes their dimming frequency is always 120 Hz, even if the TV is set in “Movie” mode. With 120 Hz of dimming frequency, this will make motion looks a bit crisper, but on the other hand, this will cause some duplication.

Both Samsung Q60R and RU8000 also have an optional BFI (Black Frame Insertion) mode that can be enabled by enabling “LED Clear Motion”. By enabling this feature, this will make their dimming frequency will be reduced to 60 Hz. Enabling this mode can help to make motion crisper, particularly when they are playing 60 fps content like sports or video games. But on the other hand, this will cause the flicker is more noticeable on their screen and may bother the people who sensitive to flicker.

Note: the 43 and 49 inches model of Q60R (QN43Q60R and QN49Q60R) and the 49 inches model of RU8000 (UN49RU8000) are supported by Motion Rate 120 and have native 60 Hz native refresh rate panel. They don’t also don’t support VRR technology and ALLM.

Inputs

The Samsung Q60R and RU8000 are equipped with the same inputs/outputs. They both have 4 HDMI ports which support most of formats like HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwidth, HDCP 2.2, CEC, and ARC (HDMI 4). But unfortunately, they both don’t support HDMI 2.1 and eARC (Enhanced Audio Return Channel). Additionally, they both also have 2 USB ports where all of them are USB 2.0 and none of them is USB 3.0. In addition to HDMI and USB, they both also have 1 Digital Audio Out (optical), 1 Tuner In (RF In), and 1 Ethernet port. They both don’t have Composite In and Component In. And as wireless connection, they both have built-in Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.

Smart TV Platform

Samsung Tizen Experience

As their smart TV platform, they both run the latest version of Tizen or called Smart Hub that powered by a quad core processor. Its interface is simple, intuitive, and easy to use. In this version, its interface is much smoother than previous version.  If in previous version, animations are frequently choppy and full of frame drops, in this version, this issue can be minimized. Additionally, it has a lot of preinstalled apps like YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Videos, Hulu, and more, Web Browser, Games, Live TV, and many more. It also has an apps store called Samsung Apps store that has huge selections of apps you can directly download from your Samsung TV. It also has excellent voice navigation that integrated with Samsung Bixby 2. That new thing is that the Tizen now already support with Amazon Alexa and Google Home. But even so, they both are not built-in, so if you want to use this feature, you must by Amazon Alexa Devices separately. The other new thing is that it now also supports screen transfer via Air Play 2.

Remote

Samsung Remote

As their controller, Samsung RU8000 is equipped with TM1950A while the Q60R is equipped with TM1950C. At a glance these remotes are very similar and also have the same buttons layout. A bit difference is on the ambient mode button and number or colored button. If on the TM1950A, the “Number” and “Colored” function are called in by its own button, on TM1950C, both of these functions are called in with the same button. Meanwhile, the button that is on TM1950A has “Colored” function, on the TM1950C, it is changed to “Ambient Mode” function.  And except this difference, in general, their functionality is very similar. They both have a built-in microphone and “Bixby” button that allows you to make a voice command such as launching apps, changing setting, and others. You even can give a voice command for Amazon Alexa and Google Home via this remote. Additionally, they both can act as universal remote, allow you to control other devices connected on your Samsung TV with these remotes. The good thing is not only HDMI-CEC compatible device that can be controlled by this remote, but also other devices which don’t support HDMI CEC. And finally, it has SmartThings feature that makes it possible for the Smart Remote to become the remote control of intelligent living.

The Difference between the Samsung RU8000 and Q60R

Image Processor

As we see on comparison table above, as their image processor, the Samsung Q60R is powered by Quantum Processor 4K while the Samsung RU8000 is powered by 4K UHD Processor. The major advantage of the Quantum Processor 4K of Q60R than the 4K UHD processor of the RU8000 is that it has machine learning capability and is able to provide various AI-Related Features including 4K AI Up-scaling, AI Generated Universal Guide, and Intelligence Mode such as Adaptive Brightness, Adaptive Volume, and Adaptive Sound. On the other hand, the image processor of the RU8000 doesn’t have this ability.

The level of UHD Dimming

Both Samsung RU8000 and Q60R don’t have local dimming feature that can improve their contrast ratio. For maximizing their dimming system, they both are powered by a software based dimming system Called UHD Dimming. And for this case, the Q60R is powered by Supreme UHD Dimming that has higher level than the UHD Dimming behind the RU8000. Can be ascertained, in improving their performance in producing black, the Supreme UHD Dimming of Q60R is better than the UHD Dimming of RU8000. But even so, their difference doesn’t have a significant impact on the picture quality produced.

Color Technology

As a part of the QLED TV, for maximizing its performance in producing color, the Samsung Q80R is powered by Quantum Dot Technology. Although not color gamut produced by the Q60R is not wide as the higher series like Q70R, but it is still able to produce wide color gamut. On the other hand, the Samsung RU8000 is powered by Dynamic Crystal Color. Color gamut delivered by this technology might be not as wide as Quantum Dot, but with this technology, the RU8000 is also able to deliver wide color gamut.

HDR Output Index

As we see on comparison table above, they both may support the same HDR format, which are HDR10, HDR10+ and HLG. But the difference is that the Samsung Q60R has HDR Output Index of Quantum HDR 4X while the RU8000 is standard HDR. This actually is just marketing name of the HDR output range of the Samsung TV Lineup. There is nothing new or special behind these names. We don’t know for sure, what variables used by Samsung to determine the value of HDR Output produced by their TV lineup. But certainly, a Samsung TV with higher HDR Output Index will have better HDR output than the Samsung TV with lower HDR Output Index. Can be ascertained, with higher HDR Output Index, the Q60R can deliver better HDR image than the RU8000.

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Samsung RU8000 Samsung Q60R
43 inches QN43Q60R on Amazon
49 inches UN49RU8000 on Amazon QN49Q60R on Amazon
55 inches UN55RU8000 on Amazon QN55Q60R on Amazon
65 inches UN65RU8000 on Amazon QN65Q60R on Amazon
75 Inches UN75RU8000 on Amazon QN75Q60R on Amazon
82 inches UN82RU8000 on Amazon QN82Q60R on Amazon

Samsung Q60R vs RU8000 Performance

Contrast Ratio, Black Level, and Black Uniformity

Both Samsung RU8000 and Q60R have excellent native contrast ratio, around 6000:1. This allows them can deliver very deep black level, deeper than 0.02 nits. The result, black of images displayed on their screen looks really black. Even in a dark room, black displayed on their screen still look really black. This certainly is great for watching movies in a dark room.  Additionally, the deep black produced by them is also able to reveal details in dark scene of HDR images fairly well. But unfortunately, they both don’t have local dimming feature that can improve their dark room performance. So, when they are showing small highlight in a dark scene, there is visible blooming around the highlight.

Meanwhile, compare between them, the Q60R may be able to deliver a bit deeper black, but its black uniformity is significantly worse than the RU8000. On the screen of RU8000, there is backlight bleed at the lower edge, but it is almost unnoticeable. On the other hand, on the screen of Q60R, the flashlighting is noticeable in the corners on the right hand side. But unfortunately, just we have mentioned, the Q60R doesn’t have local dimming feature that can improve its black uniformity.

Winner: Q60R has a bit better contrast ratio, the RU8000 has better black uniformity.

SDR Peak Brightness

Samsung Q60R has a bit brighter peak brightness than the RU8000. With real content, the Q60R is able to hit around 400 nits while the RU8000 is only around 350 nits. The good things is that their peak brightness is relatively constant regardless the content they are displaying, except for 2% window (2%of screen is white while the rest is black). As we have mentioned, both of them don’t have local dimming feature. To prevent the blooming from being too flashy when they are showing small highlight in a dark scene, their peak brightness is dimmed by their TV’s CE down to around 200 nits.  But even so, in general, their peak brightness is bright enough to fight the glare in most bright rooms. And combined to their good reflection handling, this makes them are good TV when used in average-lit or dim room.

Winner: Q60R

HDR Peak Brightness

Their HDR Peak brightness is almost similar to their SDR peak brightness. This means, with real content, the Samsung Q60R can hit around 400 nits while the RU8000 hit around 350 nits. Additionally, their HDR peak brightness behavior is also similar to SDR peak brightness behavior which is their peak brightness is relatively consistent at any window sizes except 2% window. For SDR content, their peak brightness may be bright enough to fight the glare, but with HDR content this is not bright enough to make HDR details pop. Let alone, their peak brightness on 2% window is dimmer than large bright area, this certainly makes small highlight of HDR images doesn’t look stand out they way they should in HDR.

Winner: Q60R

Color Gamut and Color Volume

Wide color gamut

The image is only illustration

Coming with Quantum Dot technology, the Samsung Q60R can deliver a bit wider color gamut than the RU8000. The Q60R can cover approximately 92% of DCI P3 color space while the RU8000 cover approximately 90% of DCI P3 color space. This might be not as wider as the series above them like Q80R or Q70R, but their color gamut is wide enough to show most colors of HDR images accurately. And coincidence, they both support HDR10 and HDR10+ that mastered in DCI P3, this makes HDR images displayed on their screen looks colorful. Meanwhile, the Q60R also has better color volume than the RU8000 and overall, their color volume is equally only decent. Their decent color volume is more due to their limited peak brightness and color gamut. But even so, except very bright blues, they both can show their wide color gamut at their entire brightness range without any issue. Overall, even though not as good as the Q70R, HDR images can be shown colorfully on their screen.

Winner: Q60R

Color Gradient

10 bit color gradient

The image is only illustration

Even though not as good as the competitors like Sony X850G, LG SM8600, and others, color gradient of the Samsung RU8000 and Q60R can still be said good. They both can show 10 bit contents with smooth color gradient. This means, HDR images can be shown with smooth color gradient. There might be some fine banding in almost all shades dark colors, but in normal content, they should be hard to notice. But even so, if you feel the banding still bother you, this can be reduced by setting “Digital Clean View” to “Auto”. This will remove most of banding, but at the same time, this will cause the image lose some fine details.

Winner: Draw

Side Viewing Angle

Like most TVs with VA panel side viewing angle becomes the main flaw of Samsung RU8000 and Q60R. In this year, Samsung might have introduced a new optical layer technology that can improve the side viewing angle coverage of their lineup called “Ultra Viewing Angle”. But unfortunately, at this time, this technology is only applied on the high-end model like Q900R, Q90R, and Q80R. At around 15 degrees off center and front, black of images displayed on their screen will be degraded. Colors also will shift and lose accuracy started at around 25 degrees. Additionally, the brightness also decreases started at around 30 degrees. This means, the images displayed on their screen will looks less accurate, even when viewed from slightly off-center.

Winner: Draw

Motion Handling

The Samsung RU8000 and Q60R both have excellent pixel response time, approximately 10 ms for Q60R and 11 ms for the RU8000. As we know, pixel response time is the most important component that influences on the TV performance in handling motion blur. The lower pixel response time of a TV, the motion will look smoother with less blur. Meanwhile, with their pixel response time, when they are playing fast paced content like sports or video games, motion looks very clear with almost no visible blur. There is only a short ghosting trail behind fast moving object which is this should be hard to notice in normal content. Meanwhile, the blur that might be visible is more due to their backlight flicker.

But as we have mentioned above, they both have an optional BFI (Black Frame Insertion) mode that can help to make motion crisper. By enabling this feature, this can remove persistence blur that caused by their backlight flicker. But just we have mentioned above, enabling their BFI mode will makes their backlight flickers at 60 Hz. For the people who sensitive to flicker, this will cause their backlight flicker can bother them.

Meanwhile, when playing 24p movies, both the Samsung Q60R and RU8000 can do the same great job. Regardless the source of the movies is native 24p content like DVD or Blur Ray Movies,  24p content from native apps like Amazon Videos, Netflix, Hulu, and others, 24p movies via 60i signal like movies from satellite TV, 24p movies via 60p signal like movies from streaming devices or PC, all of them can be shown smoothly with judder-free. You just need to set “Auto Motion Plus” to “Custom” and both “Blur” and “Judder” Reduction slider to “0”.

Winner: Draw

Inputs Lags

The Samsung RU8000 and Q60R also have similar input lags in Game Mode and overall, their input lags are really great. At 60 Hz, regardless the resolution is 1080p, 1080p @4:4:4, 1440p, 4K, 4K with HDR, 4K @4:4:4, and others, their input lags are around 15 ms. Meanwhile, with 120 fps content, their input lags is even more excellent, which is around 6 ms for both 1080p and 1440p resolution. Keep in mind, they both don’t support 4K @120 Hz. Just we have mentioned, the RU8000 and Q60R already support VRR technology. In VRR mode, their input lags are also excellent, approximately 6 ms at both 1080p and 1440p resolution and approximately 14 ms at 4K resolution. All of these certainly will make them are very responsive for playing any games. So, no matter you are playing 1080p, 1440p, or 4K games, casual or fast paced games, you will be pleased with their responsiveness.

Winner: Draw

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Samsung RU8000 Samsung Q60R
43 inches QN43Q60R on Amazon
49 inches UN49RU8000 on Amazon QN49Q60R on Amazon
55 inches UN55RU8000 on Amazon QN55Q60R on Amazon
65 inches UN65RU8000 on Amazon QN65Q60R on Amazon
75 Inches UN75RU8000 on Amazon QN75Q60R on Amazon
82 inches UN82RU8000 on Amazon QN82Q60R on Amazon

Conclusion

For Watching Movies

Both Samsung Q60R and RU8000 may have excellent native contrast ratio than allows the can produce true black in a dark room. They both also have excellent judder-handling when playing 24p movies. Additionally, their excellent pixel response time and BFI mode allows makes the fast movies displayed on their screen looks very crisp. But unfortunately, they both don’t have local dimming feature that can improve their dark room performance. So even though blacks of images can be shown really black, there are a lot of visible blooming when they are showing small highlights. Overall, lack of local dimming technology makes their performance when used for watching movies in a dark room is only decent. Meanwhile, compare between them, their performance is not much different. But even so, the RU8000 is a bit better since it has better black uniformity.

Winner: RU8000

For watching Sports

Both Samsung NU8000 and Q60R are good TVs for watching sports. They both have good SDR peak brightness, and combined to their good reflection handling allow you to watch sports in most bright rooms without distracting glare. Additionally, they both also have excellent motion handling, makes fast sports like Moto GP or F1 can be shown smoothly with almost blur-free. They both also have good gray uniformity, allow you to watch sports with minimal dirty screen effect. But unfortunately, they both have poor side viewing angle coverage. This means, when you watch sports with a group of your family or friend, some of you may get less accurate picture quality. Meanwhile, compare between them, the Q60R can get a bit brighter, make it can do a bit better job in handling glare. On the other hand, the RU8000 has better gray uniformity, makes field of sport can be shown with less dark spot than Q60R. But in general, as long as you watch sports not in very bright room or without a group of family or friend, they both are good TVs for watching sports.

Winner: Draw

Video Games

When used for playing games, their performance is really excellent. In addition they both have excellent pixel response time that makes fast games looks very crisp, they both also have excellent input lags which makes gaming feel very responsive, even when you are plating fast paced content. The good thing is that they both also already support FreeSync VRR technology. This allows you to play game with nearly screen tearing-free. This is great for you who have Xbox One or PC gamers with AMD video card. Additionally, their HDMI ports also already supports ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode), allow you to get the low latency without manually change them to “Game Mode”. But a bit flaw is that their side viewing angle is poor, which is not ideal for co-op gaming.

Winner: Draw

HDR Experience

Both Samsung Q60R and RU8000 may already support more than one HDR format including HDR10, HDR10+, and HLG. They both can also produce deep dark that makes dark scene of HDR images looks excellently with details revealed. But even so, they both don’t have local dimming feature that can further improve dark scene of HDR images like minimizing blooming or others. Additionally, they both also have wide color gamut and good color. The big issue is that their peak brightness is not sufficient to show HDR images as bright as they should be, so details of HDR images cannot be popped. But even so, since the Q60R has a bit deeper black, a bit wider color gamut and slightly brighter HDR peak brightness, compare among them, HDR performance of Q60R is a bit better then the RU8000.

Winner: Q60R

Summary

As we have discussed a lot above, overall, the Samsung Q60R is better than the RU8000. Supported by the Quantum processor 4K, the Q60R has some AI-Related features like Ambient Mode, Adaptive Brightness, Adaptive Sound, and Adaptive Volume that can automatically adjust the TV setting to get the optimal picture and sound quality. On the other hand, the RU8000 with its 4K UHD Processor doesn’t have these features. Additionally, overall, the Q60R also has better picture quality than the RU8000. Even though its black and gray uniformity is not as good as the RU8000, overall, most components of picture like black level, peak brightness, color gamut and color volume, and color gradient is bit better than the RU8000.

Meanwhile, ignoring the superiority of the Samsung Q60R, overall, they both are good mid-end TV for any usage, regardless they are used for watching movies, TV shows, Sports, or Playing Games. But on the condition they both are not used in a very bright room or wide room with a lot of viewers watch TV from multiple angles.  But even so, if you come to them for HDR experience, you might be disappointed. Their image quality is not sufficient to makes HDR details pop, mainly their peak brightness.

So, which is a better choice between the? If you have enough budgets, of course, the Samsung Q60R is better choice. But just we have mentioned, with the same screen sizes, the Q60R has hundreds of dollars more expensive price. On the other hand, although not as good as the Q60R, with the price and performance that offered, the Samsung RU8000 also has good value of money. Now, the decision comes back to you according to your won preferences and budget.

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Samsung RU8000 Samsung Q60R
43 inches QN43Q60R on Amazon
49 inches UN49RU8000 on Amazon QN49Q60R on Amazon
55 inches UN55RU8000 on Amazon QN55Q60R on Amazon
65 inches UN65RU8000 on Amazon QN65Q60R on Amazon
75 Inches UN75RU8000 on Amazon QN75Q60R on Amazon
82 inches UN82RU8000 on Amazon QN82Q60R on Amazon

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