Samsung Q900TS vs Q800T Review (QN65Q900TS vs QN65Q800T, QN75Q900TS vs QN75Q800T, QN82Q900TS vs QN85Q800T)
The Samsung Q900TS and Q800T are parts of Samsung’s 2020 8K QLED TV Lineup. As we have known, in 2020, Samsung has released there models of 8K TVs including Q800T, Q900TS and the high-end Q950TS. This means they both come with 8K resolution. Although native 8K contents that available in the market are still rarely, both of them still a great all-around TV you can consider to choose. Supported by a great 8K Up-scaling engine, they both allow you to enjoy 8K entertainment with very detail picture quality, even if the source is not native 8K content. As high ends TVs of Samsung, they both bring some advanced technologies that will spoil you in enjoying 8K entertainment, even not in picture quality only, but also in smart TV experience, games, sound performance, etc.
Coming with VA panel that powered by Quantum Dot technology and Full Array Local Dimming, they both can deliver excellent picture quality with deep black and rich colors. Meanwhile, even though they both come with VA panel that usually has poor side viewing angle coverage, but with anti glare optical layer called “Ultra Viewing Angle”, this makes them have good side viewing angle poor. Additionally, they both also already support VRR technology that compatible with some gaming features like GSync, FreeSync, and HDMI Forum VRR that will improve their games experience. In general, for you who want to buy great high end TVs, they both are great TVs you should consider.
In the market, they both come in 3 screen sizes variants. From the smallest, there is 65 inches, (QN65Q900TSFXZA vs QN65Q800TFXZA) and 75 inches QN75Q900TSFXZA vs QN75Q800TFXZA). Meanwhile, their biggest variant is a bit different where the Q900TS comes in 85 inches (QN65Q900TSFXZA) and the Q800T comes in 82 inches (QN82Q800TFXZA). And with the same screen, the Q900TS is sold hundreds dollar more expensive than the Q800T. So, what advantages are offered by Q900TS over the Q800T?
Samsung Q800T vs Q900TS Side by Side Comparison
|Technology and Features||Samsung Q900TS||Samsung Q800T|
|Screen Size Available||65 Inches (QN65Q900TSAFXZA), 75 Inches (QN75Q900TSAFXZA), and 85 Inches (QN85Q800TSAFXZA),||65 Inches (QN65Q800TAFXZA), 75 Inches (QN75Q800TAFXZA), and 82 Inches (QN82Q800TAFXZA),|
|Resolution||8K (7680 × 4320)||8K (7680 × 4320)|
|Panel Technology||VA Panel||VA Panel|
|Backlight Technology||Direct LED||Direct LED|
|Local Dimming Technology||(Direct Full Array 32X||Yes (Direct Full Array 24X), 82 inches (Direct Full Array 32X)|
|Ultra Viewing Angle||Yes||Yes|
|Processor||Quantum Processor 8K||Quantum Processor 8K|
|Numerical HDR Index by Samsung||Quantum HDR 24X||Quantum HDR 16X|
|HDR Supports||HDR10, HLG, HDR10+||HDR10, HLG, HDR10+|
|Color Technology||Quantum Dot||Quantum Dot|
|Up-Scaling Engine||8K AI Up-Scaling||8K AI Up-Scaling|
|Motion Technology||Motion Rate 240||Motion Rate 240|
|Native Refresh Rate Panel||120 Hz||120 Hz|
|Variable Refresh Rate||Yes (FreeSync, GSync, HDMI Forum),||Yes (FreeSync, GSync, HDMI Forum),|
|Smart TV Platform||Tizen 2020||Tizen 2020|
|Processor||Quad Core||Quad Core|
|Support Google Assistant||Yes||Yes|
|Support Amazon Alexa||Yes||Yes|
|Total Sound Output||70 Watts||70 Watts|
|HDMI Supports||HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwidth, HDMI 2.1, CEC, HDCP 2.2||HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwidth, HDMI 2.1, CEC, HDCP 2.2|
Contrast and Local Dimming
Since they use the same panel technology, which is VA panel with an anti glare optical layer called “Ultra Viewing Angle”, their native contrast ratio is almost similar, which is around 1500:1. This actually is relatively low for VA Panel. The use of “Ultra Viewing Angle” may improve their side viewing angle coverage significantly, but on the other hand, this decreases their native contrast ratio. And that’s why their native contrast ratio is low albeit they both use VA panel. But luckily, they both have great local dimming features that can improve their contrast ratio significantly where with local dimming enable, the contrast ratio of the Q800T can be increased to around 9000:1 while contrast ratio of the Q900TS is increased to around 14000:1. The result, black produced by them is very deep, deep enough to make black of images look really black in a dark room. Meanwhile, compare among them, since it has higher contrast ratio, the Q900TS can produce deeper black than the Q800T.
In addition can produce deeper black level, the Samsung Q900TS can also deliver better black uniformity than the Q800T. On their screen, with local dimming disabled, clouding and backlight bleed are visible throughout some area. Fortunately, with local dimming enabled, their black uniformity is significantly improved. Additionally, although there is still some noticeable blooming around small bright object and can be removed completely, but in general, their local dimming performance in minimizing blooming is good.
SDR Peak Brightness
SDR Peak brightness of the Samsung Q800T and Q900TS is equally excellent. But just like other LED TVs with local dimming. Their peak brightness varies depending on the content where they both have exceptional brightness with small highlights and get dimmer with large areas. They both hit their highest peak brightness at 10% white window where the Q800T is able to hit around 1275 nits for a short tome and around 1175 nits after stabilized while the Q900TS can hits around 1000 nits for a short time and around while the Q900TS 1000 nits for a short time and around 950 nits after stabilized. But even so, on 100% white window, their peak brightness significantly drops where the Q800T can only hit around 380 nits while the Q900TS can only hit around 310 nits. Meanwhile, with real SDR content, the Q800T is able to hit around 650 nits while the Q950TS hit around 575 nits. Ignoring their difference, their SDR peak brightness is excellent, allowing them can perform well in a bright room.
HDR Peak Brightness
While SDR peak brightness of the Samsung Q800T is brighter, the Q900TS can deliver a bit brighter HDR peak brightness. Just like with SDR content, they both hit their brightest peak brightness also at 10% white window where the Q800T hits around 1380 nits for a short time and drops to around 1200 nits after stabilized while the Q900TS hits around 1200 nits for a short time and drops to around 1125 after stabilized. Meanwhile, when they show throughout screen is bright, the Q800T hit around 350 nits while the Q900TS hits around 330 nits. Although with white window test, the Q800T can get brighter than the Q900TS but with real HDR content, the Q900TS can get brighter where it can hit around 1375 nits while the Q800T can hit around 1175 nits. Just like their SDR peak brightness, their HDR peak brightness is also great for HDR content. In certain scenes, they can even show HDR images at 1000 nits – 4000 nits of brightness range content creator intended. And what reached by them is great and there are not many TV can reach like them.
Both of the Samsung Q800T and Q900TS have excellent color gamut. In DCI P3 xy color space, the Q800T can cover around 87% while the Q900TS cover around 92%. Additionally, in DCI P3 uv color space, the Q800T can cover around 93% while the Q900TS cover around 94%. In Rec.2020, their color coverage is only decent. But since they don’t support content that mastered in Rec.2020 like Dolby Vision, this is not really required. Meanwhile, with color coverage above 90% in DCI P3 color space, it is great for HDR content that mastered in DCI P3 like HDR10 or HDR10+. Almost all colors of HDR images can be shown properly. And compare among them, even though the color coverage of the Q900TS is a bit wider, but it doesn’t have significant impact on the picture produced.
In addition to have excellent color gamut, both of the Samsung Q900TS and Q800T also has good color volume. Except bright blues, they both can show their wide color in their brightness range. Their Excellent contrast ratio makes them can show dark deep colors fairly well. On the contrary, their highest peak brightness allows them can produce pure white and bright colors properly. But just like most LED TVs, they both cannot produce bright blues and it is the main shortcoming of LED TV. Compare among them, the Q900TS has a bit better color volume due it has a bit better color gamut, but this doesn’t have a significant impact on the content.
Although not as good as Sony TVS in its class, they also have good color gradient. Although there is still some a little banding in certain colors, but in normal content, this should not be noticeable. On the screen of the Q800T, there is still little banding in reds and greens while on the screen of Q900TS, there are little banding in all colors particularly in reds and grays. But just we have mentioned, although there is still some banding but this should not be noticeable. But even so, if you still feel bothered with banding, both of them have a feature called “Noise Reduction” that can smooth out the picture by setting it to “Auto”.
Side Viewing Angle
As we have mentioned above, for improving their side viewing angle coverage, the panel of the Samsung Q900TS and Q800T has an anti glare optical layer called “Ultra Viewing Angle”. However, although they both come with “Ultra Viewing Angle” optical layer, but the side viewing angle of the Q800T is better than Q900TS. On the screen of the Q800T, black level look very consistent, even if you watch TV from extremely side angle. On the other hand, on the screen of the Q900TS, started at around 25 degrees off center, black level will look degraded. Meanwhile, in maintaining color accuracy, the Samsung Q800T is also better than the Q900TS. If on the screen of the Q800T, color of images will start to look washed out at around 46%, on the screen of the Q900TS, color will look washed out started at around 25 degrees. Meanwhile, in maintaining brightness level, their performance is almost similar where the brightness will be degraded started at around 50 degrees. This means, when viewed from the side, the picture displayed on the screen of the Q800T will look be better than the Q900TS.
The Samsung Q900TS has much lower pixel response time than the Q800T. If the pixel response time of the Q800T is around 18 ms, the pixel response time of the Q900TS is around 9 ms. The result, when they are playing fast moving images like fast sports of fast movies, the picture displayed on the screen of the Q900TS will look clearer than the Q800T. On the screen of the Q900TS, a faint trail following fast moving object is shorter than the Q800T. Nevertheless, although not as low as the Q900TS, pixel response time of the Q800T is actually low enough to make motion looks clear and smooth. Although there is a ghosting trail following fast moving object, this should not be noticeable for most people.
To dim their backlight, both of them use PWM (Pulse Width Dimming) System with highest dimming frequency is 9660 Hz. It is reached when the Q900T is set to “Movies” mode while the Q800T is set to “Movies” and “Mode”. In this mode, since their screen flicker at high frequency, this will make backlight flicker is almost no noticeable. Meanwhile, in all other mode all their “Picture Clarity” setting is enabled, their dimming frequency will drop to 120 Hz even if they set in movie mode. Additionally, they both also have an optional BFI (Black Frame Insertion) mode that can help to improve their motion appearance, Enabling this feature will make their dimming frequency drops to 60 Hz. Enabling this feature will make motion look clearer particularly when they are playing 60 fps content. But on the other hand, since their backlight flicker at 60 Hz, its backlight flicker may be noticeable for some people, particularly who sensitive to flicker.
Meanwhile, in handling 24p judder, they both can also do a great job. Regardless the source of the movies, they both can show them with judder-free. For removing judder, you just need to set “Picture Clarity” to “Custom” and set “Blur” and “Judder” Reduction to “0”.
Input Specification and Input Lag
As their major connectivity, they both are equipped with 4 HDMI ports. All of their HDMI ports support HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwidth, CEC, and HDCP 2.2. One of their HDMI port also already supports HDMI 2.1, which is HDMI 4. On their HDMI 3, they also support ARC and eARC. Additionally, the HDMI format that supported by them are HDR10, HDR10+, and HLG (Hybrid Log Gamma). Their HDMI ports also support most of resolution. At 60 Hz, they both support all resolution such as 1080p, 1440p, 4K, etc. But unfortunately, at 120 Hz, they both only support 1080p and 1440p and don’t support 4K resolution. Meanwhile, with 4K resolution, they both support 8K at 24 Hz, 30 Hz, and 60 Hz.
Meanwhile, talking about their input lags in “Game” mode, they have excellent input lags and their input lags are almost similar. With 60 fps content, their input lags are around 10 Ms while with 120 fps content, their input lags are around 6 ms, regardless the resolution. You need to know, they both also already support VRR technology and in VRR mode, their input lags are around 6 ms with 1080p and 1440p resolution and around 14 ms with 4K resolution. With their low input lags, can be ascertained, they are equally very responsive for any games even for fast paced games that requires fast reflexes.
Infinity Screen for the Samsung Q900TS
One of the advantages of the Q900TS is that it comes with infinity screen while the Q800T doesn’t. It is a nearly-invisible frame. With borders of around 0.1 cm, from a distance, it gives you an impression of having a completely borderless screen. Compare to the Q800T that has borders of around 1.1 cm.
For improving their gaming experience, both of them already supports VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) technology. With 1080p and 1440p resolution, their refresh rate frequency is able to range between 20 Hz and 120 HZ while with 4K resolution, their refresh rate frequency is able to range between 48 Hz and 60 Hz. VRR technology is compatible with some gaming features like FreeSync, GSync, and HDMI Forum VRR.
As their Smart TV platform, both of the Samsung Q800T and Q900TS run Tizen 2020 OS or 5.5 version. As we have known, it is one of the best smart TV platforms. With a horizontal line of tile icons to showcase available apps, the interface looks very simple and intuitive. In addition a horizontal line of tile icons, there are also nitty-gritty picture settings, cable inputs, and Samsung TV Plus. In addition it is easy to use, its navigation is also very smooth.
This platform also has great selection of pre-installed apps. There are Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Apple TV, Rakuten TV, iTV Hub, ALL 4, YouTube, and more. In addition great selection of pre-installed apps, it also has an app store called Samsung Apps store that provides great selection of downloadable apps. This smart TV platform also supports voice navigation. In addition it works with its own platform called “Samsung’s Bixby”, it also already supports Google Voice.
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|Samsung Q800T||Samsung Q9800TS|
Samsung Q900TS vs Q800T Performance
Performance of the Samsung Q800T and Q900TS in a dark room is really great. They both have great native contrast ratio that makes they can produce deep black. So, even though they are set in a pitch dark room, black produced by them still look really black. Additionally, they both also have good local dimming that can further improve their performance in a dark room. If you prefer watch movies in a dark room, they both also have great performance in handling 24p judder. Additionally, the performance of their up-scaling engine is also great, allowing you to watch movies in 8K resolution with very detail images, even if the source has lower resolution. Meanwhile, compare between them, the Samsung Q900TS is a bit better due it has better black and grey uniformity than the Q800T.
Their performance when used for watching sports in a bright room is also great. They both have great SDR peak brightness. With overall peak brightness around 675 nits for the Q900TS and aroudn650 nits for the Q800T, their peak brightness is bright enough to fight the glare, even if they are set in a bright room. They both also have good reflection handling, making their performance in a bright room is great. Meanwhile, with great performance in handling motion, this makes them can show fast sports smoothly with almost no motion blur. Additionally, they both also have good BFI (black Frame Insertion) mode that can improve their motion appearance. In general, they are equally great TVs for watching sports in a bright room. And compare between them, the Q900TS is a bit better than the Q800T. The Samsung Q800T may have brighter peak brightness, however, its reflection handling, pixel response time, and gray uniformity are not as good as the Q900TS.
The Samsung Q900TS and Q800T also have great performance when used for playing games. In addition they both have good performance in both dark and bright room due their great native contrast ratio and SDR peak brightness, good motion handling due to its great pixel response time and BFI performance, they both also have excellent input lags in any resolution and frame rate. This allows you to play any games responsively with good picture quality and smooth motion. As we have mentioned, they both also already supports VRR technology that compatible with some gaming feature like GSync, FreeSync, and HDMI Forum VRR, making you to play games without screen tearing effect. Meanwhile, compare between them, the Q900TS is a bit better. They may have same input lags and both support VRR technology, but the Q900TS has lower pixel response time than the Q800T. Additionally, in general, performance of the Samsung Q900TS in both dark and bright room is also a bit better than the Q800T.
Samsung Q800T and Q900TS have great HDR Performance. Their high native contrast ratio makes them can produce deep black. It is more than enough to show shadow details of HDR image excellently the way they should in HDR. Additionally, combination of their wide color gamut and color volume also allows them can show HDR images with very accurate and vibrant color. Not only that, they both also can show color gradient of HDR images smoothly with almost no banding noticeable. And that’s great is their HDR peak brightness where with more than 1000 nits, they both can make highlights of HDR images pop, as bright as the content creator intended. And compare between them, the Q900TS is better. This is caused the Q900TS has strong contrast ratio and brighter HDR peak brightness, allowing it can produce deeper black and brighter highlight than the Q800T. But even so, although not as good as the Q900TS, HDR performance of the Samsung Q800T is also great.
In general, both of the Samsung Q900TS and Q800T are great TVs for mixed usage. Regardless they are used for watching Movies, TV Shows, Sports, HDR content or playing games, their performance is great. They both also great performance, no matter they are used in a dark or bright room. Smart Features that offered by them are also not much different. Which is a better choice between them? As we have discussed a lot above, in general, the Samsung Q900TS is better than the Q800T, regardless they are used for. Additionally, it also comes with “Infinity Screen”, allowing you to watch TV with an impression of having a completely borderless screen. But even so, although in general, performance of the Q900TS is better, the Samsung Q800T is sold much cheaper than the Q800T. Now, the decision comes back to you according to your own preference and budget.
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|Samsung Q800T||Samsung Q9800TS|