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Sony X85J vs X80J Review – (KD-43X85J vs KD-43X80J, KD-50X85J vs KD-50X80J, KD-55X85J vs KD-55X80J, KD-65X85J vs KD-65X80J, KD-75X85J vs KD-75X80J)

by on June 19, 2021
 

Sony X85J and X80J are parts of the middle-range model of Sony’s 2021 4K LED TV lineup. One of their major differences between them is their panel technology. The X85J uses VA panel that usually has good contrast ratio but at the same time also narrow viewing angle. On the other hand, the Sony X80J uses ADS panel. Technically, it is different to IPS panel. However, its characteristic is similar to IPS panel where it typically has wide viewing angle but its native contrast ratio. But even so, compare to the higher model like Sony X90J, they both lack local dimming feature that can help improve their performance in a dark room. This means each of the X80J and Q85J has advantages and disadvantages to each other. So, what are their differences and which is a better choice between them?

Sony X85J vs X80J Short Review

Sony X85J

Sony X85J Review

Sony X85J is the second top model of the Sony’s 2021 4k LED TV Lineup. It sits between the X90J and X80J. Coming with VA panel technology, it offers good native contrast ratio, allowing it can produce deep black. Additionally, it also has excellent black uniformity, making its performance in a dark room is great. Unfortunately, it doesn’t have local dimming feature that can further improve its performance in a dark room. Additionally, it also has good SDR peak brightness, bright enough to overcome the glare in most bright rooms. But even so, it is only has decent reflection handling, so place it opposite window with direct light should be avoided. The Sony X85J also has good response time, making it can do a good job in handling motion. And its low inputs lag make it is very responsive when used for playing game. Overall, the Sony X85J is good TVs for most usage.

PROS

Low Response time
Great Contrast Ratio
Excellent Black Uniformity
Low Input Lags

CONS

Narrow ViewingAngle
No Local Dimming
No VRR

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Sony X80J

Sony X80J

Sony X80J is the step down model of the X85J. But even so, unlike the X85J, the X80J comes with ADS panel, making them has wide viewing angle coverage. However, as expected of ADS panel, it has low native contrast ratio and poor black uniformity. It also lacks local dimming performance that can improve its performance in a dark room. All of these make it is not suitable for a dark room. It may be not as bright as the X85J, but its SDR peak brightness is still bright enough to fight the glare in dark to moderate-lit room. It can do a good job in handling, making motion looks very smooth on its screen. Additionally, it also has low input lags that make it very responsive for any games. But unfortunately, it lacks ALLM, HDMI 2.1, and VRR technology that can improve its gaming performance. But even so, its gaming performance is still good for casual games. Overall, as long as you don’t use it in a dark room, the Sony X80J is good TV for most usage.

PROS

Wide Viewing Angle
Good Response Time
Low Input Lags

CONS

Low Contrast Ratio
No Local Dimming
No VRR
Limited HDR Peak Brightness

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Sony X85 J vs X80J Side by Side Comparison

Dark Room Performance

Score: 77/100

Contrast: 6300:1
Panel Type: VA
Backlight: DIrect LED
Local Dimming: No
DCI P3 Color Space: 95%
Rec.2020 Color Space: 71%
Color Gradient: 80/100
Black Uniformity: 86/100
Gray Uniformity: 79/100
Viewing Angle: 55/100

Sony X85J is much better in a dark Room

In a dark room, performance of the Sony X85J is much better than the Q80J. This is caused that the Q885J has better much better contrast ratio and black uniformity. As typical a TV with VA pane, the X85J has excellent native contrast ratio, which is around 6300:1, deep enough to produce deep black. So, even though it is set in a dark room, black of images displayed on its screen still looks really black. On the other hand, the use of ADS panel that has similar characteristic to IPS panel makes the X80J has low contrast ratio, which is around 1100:1. So, it cannot produce deep dark. Even in a dark room, black of images displayed on its screen look tend grey than really black. Indirectly, this also makes darker colors looks less accurate and also its black uniformity is not so good.

Score: 61/100

Contrast:1100:1
Panel Type: VA
Backlight: Direct LED
Local Dimming: No
DCI P3 Color Space: 86%
Rec.2020 Color Space: 70%
Color Gradient: 86/100
Black Uniformity: 59/100
Gray Uniformity: 77/100
Viewing Angle: 71/100

Bright Room Performance

Score: 77/100

SDR Peak Brightness: 510 Nits
Reflection Handling: 71/100
Color Gamut: 80/100
Color Volume: 72/100
Color Gradient: 87/100
Pre Calibration: 90/100

Performance of the X80J is much better but still slight worse than the X85J overall

In a bright room, their performance is equally good. But even so, overall, the X85J is still slight better than the X80J. It has brighter SDR peak brightness, so in moderately to bright room, the picture displayed on its screen will look more obvious than the X80J. Meanwhile, since the X80J has wider viewing angle coverage, when you move off center, the picture displayed on its screen will look more consistent than on the screen of X85J. Additionally, it also has slight better reflection handling than the step-up model. Overall, in a bright room, performance of the X80J is much better than in a dark room, but it is still slight worse than the X85J.

Score: 75/100

SDR Peak Brightness: 330 Nits
Reflection Handling: 73/100
Color Gamut: 78/100
Color Volume: 74/100
Color Gradient: 86/100
Pre Calibration: 89/100

Picture Clarity

Score: 76/100

8K Inputs: 0/100
4K Inputs: 100/100
1080p Inputs: 90/100
720p Inputs: 80/100
480p Inputs: /80/100
Screen Resolution: 4K

Good 4K Up-scaling Engine

Both of the Sony X85J and X80J have good 4K-Upscaling engine. They both can show 4K images with fine details. The lower resolution content like 480p or 720p DVD movies or Cable TV looks good on their screen without any issue. Furthermore, 1080p contents also look as good as native 4K contents. Meanwhile, when the source is native 4K content, the both can display perfectly without any issues.

Score: 76/100

8K Inputs: 0/100
4K Inputs: 100/100
1080p Inputs: 90/100
720p Inputs: 80/100
480p Inputs: 80/100
Screen Resolution: 4K

Motion Handling

Score 78/100

Native Refresh Rate: 120 Hz
Response Time: 13 ms
PWM Frequency: 0 Hz
60 Hz BFI: No
120 Hz BFI: Yes
24p Judder: 100/100
VRR: No

Equally great in handling 60 fps motion

Actually, both of the Sony X80J and the X85J has excellent motion handling. Both of them have excellent response time, making motion appears smoothly on their screen with minimum blur. Following fast moving object, there is only short faint trail where it should be hard to notice. Meanwhile, to improve their motion appearance, they both also have an optional BFI mode (Black Frame Insertion). But unfortunately, their BFI mode is only able to make their backlight flicker at 120 Hz. For X85J that also supports 120 fps content, this is good for 120 Hz fast motion. But on the other hand, since the X80J only has native 60 Hz refresh rate panel, it cannot play 120 fps content. This means, enabling its BFI when playing 60 fps content can cause some duplications. In handling 60 fps contents, their performance is not much different overall. But the Q85J is superior to the Q80J because it ahs native 120 Hz refresh rate panel.  

Score 65/100

Native Refresh Rate: 60Hz
Response Time: 12 ms
PWM Frequency 0 Hz
60 Hz BFI: No
120 Hz BFI: Yes
24p Judder: 56/100
VRR: No

Inputs

Score 90/100

Input Lags @ 60 Hz: 15 ms
Input Lags @ 120 Hz: 6 ms
Supported Resolution @60 Hz: 1080p, 1440p (forced resolution required), 4K, 4K @ 4:4:4
Supported Resolution @120 Hz: 1080p, 4K
HDMI Port: 4
HDMI 2.1: 2
HDMI eARC: Yes
ALLM: No
USB 2.0: 1
USB 3.0: 1

They both actually have great input lags, but the X80J lacks some features like HDMI 2.1 and ALLM

Both of them have excellent input lags in Game Mode. The X80J is even has lower input lags with 60 fps content, which is around 11 ms while input lags of the X85J is around 15 ms. Input lags of the X85J may be not as low as the X80J, making it is not as responsive as the X80J. But it is still low enough to make 60 fps games feel responsively. Meanwhile, with 120 fps content, input lags of the X85J is much lower, which is around 6 ms, making it is very responsive for 120 fps games. But even so, they lack some feature like ALLM.  The advantage of the X85J, combination of native 120 fps refresh rate panel ad HDMI 2.1 allows it supports high resolution games like 4K HDR @ 120 Hz games. On the other hand, the X80J only has native 60 Hz refresh rate and don’t support HDMI 2.1, so it cannot play high resolution games that supported by modern games console like PS 5 or Xbox X Series.

Score 84/100

Input Lags: 11 ms
Input Lags @ 120 Hz : N/a
Supported Resolution @60 Hz: 1080p, 1440p (forced resolution required), 4K, 4K @ 4:4:4
Supported Resolution @120 Hz: No
HDMI Port: 4
HDMI 2.1: No
HDMI eARC: Yes
ALLM: No
USB 2.0: 1
USB 3.0: 1

Sound Performance

Score 57/100

Speaker Channel : 2.0
Total Power Output: 20 watts
Built-in Woofer: No
Max Volume: 93 dB SPL
Sound Quality: 69/100

Standard Sound Performance

Both of the Sony X80J and X85J is only equipped with standard built-in speaker, which is 2.0 channel speaker with total sound output of 20 watts. There is no built-in subwoofer. But even so, actually, they both can get very loud, enough for large room or noisy environment. Their frequency response and distortion performance of their sound is also not so bad. But even so, lacks of built-in sub-woofer makes their low-frequency extension is high, making they have poor bass and cannot produce deep rumble or thump. Fortunately, in higher frequency, they have well-balanced sound profile, allowing them can produce clear dialogue that certainly good for TV shows Podcast.

Score 56/100

Speaker Channel: 2.0
Total Power Output: 20 watts
Built-in Woofer: No
Max Volume: 92 dB SPL
Sound Quality: 67/100

Features

Score 88/100

Smart TV Platform : Google TV 10
Apps and Features: 90/100
Cast Capable: Yes
HDR in Streaming Apps: Yes
Voice Control: Google Assistant, Amazon Alexa
Apple App: AirPlay, HomeKit
Remote App: Android TV

Great Smart TV Platform with tons of Apps

In this year, the Sony TVs including X80J and X85J run Google TV instead of Android TVs found on previous years. Actually, it has the same core than Android TV, but has a bit difference in layout and functionality. In Google TV, the interface has been redesigned lets you access all your content through a single hub of recommended content by logging in to your Google account. It is very smooth and easy to use. And just like Android TV, the Google TV also has great selection of Apps. Both of the Sony X85J and X80J also support voice command and work with built-in Google Assistant and Amazon Alexa. They also work well with the Android TV mobile App.

Score 88/100

Smart TV Platform : Android TV 9
Apps and Features: 90/100
Cast Capable: Yes
HDR in Streaming Apps: Yes
Voice Control: Google Assistant, Amazon Alexa
Apple App: AirPlay, HomeKit
Remote App: Android TV

Sony X85J vs X80J Performance

Movies

Score 76/100

Good TV for Watching Movies

Overall, the Sony X85J is great TVs for watching movies in both dark room and bright room. Combination of their good contrast ratio and black uniformity makes its dark room performance is great. On the other hand, it also has good bright room performance thanks to its good SDR peak brightness and reflection handling. Meanwhile, coming with native 120 Hz refresh rate panel and HDMI 2.1 allows you to watch HFR movies like 4K @ 120 Hz. It also has good motion handling and can do a great job in removing judder, allowing you to watch fast movies smoothly with judder free. Meanwhile, if you have non 4K movies in your hard drive or watch movies from Cable TV, it also has good 4K Up-scaling engine, allowing you to watch them in 4K quality with small details are still preserved well. Overall, the QX85J is good TV when for watching movies.   

Dark Room Performance: 30%
Bright Room Performancee: 20%
Picture Clarity: 15%
Motion Handling: 10%
Inputs: 10%
Sound Performance: 10%

Score 68/100

Not a good choice for dark room but still good TV for watching TV in a bright room

When used for watching movies in a dark room, performance of the Sony X80J may be disappointing. This is caused their dark room performance is not so good due its low native contrast ratio and poor black uniformity. But once it is set in a bright room, its performance is much better. This is caused the impact of high native contrast ratio is not as sensitive as in a dark room. Just like the X85J, it also has good motion handling that certainly makes fast movies can be shown smoothly on its screen. It also has good 4K Up-scaling engine, allowing you to watch movies in 4K quality with fine details, even if the source is non 4K content. But of course, its performance is not as good as the X85J, especially in handling 24p judder. It can remove judder only if the source is native 2p movies like DVD or Blu-Ray movies. Other than that, it is not able to remove judder.  

TV Shows

Score 77/100

Good TVs for watching TV Shows with clear Diaologue

The Sony X85J is good TVs for watching TV shows, no matter you use it in a dark or a bright room. It has good 4K Up-scaling engine, allowing you to watch TV Shows or Podcasts with smooth picture quality. Additionally, it also has well-balanced sound profile, so dialogue will sound clearly. Unfortunately, it has narrow viewing angle coverage, so if you watch TV shows from the side, the picture will look degraded.

Dark Room Performance: 20%
Bright Room Performancee: 30%
Picture Clarity: 25%
Motion Handling: 10%
Inputs: 10%
Sound Performance: 5%

Score 71/100

As long as not in a dark room, its performance is good

As long as you don’t watch TV Shows in a dark room, performance of the Sony X80J is good. Like on the X85J, its great up-scaling engine allows you to watch TV in 4K quality from Cable TV or TV box with smooth picture quality. Additionally, its sound performance is also not much different to the X85J, allowing you to watch podcast with clear dialogue. The good point is that it has wide viewing angle coverage, so if you watch TV shows with your family, all of you will get the same picture quality. But even so, its SDR peak brightness is not as bright as the X85J, so in a very bright room, you may get issue with the glare.

Sports

Score 77/100

Good TV for Sports, but not for wide room

For watching sports, performance of the X85J is also good. It has good motion handling, allowing you to watch sports like F1 or MotoGP smoothly with minimal blur. If you watch a big game from TV cable, it can also up-scale low resolution content to 4K fairly well. Additionally, its great SDR peak brightness allows you to watch sports in a dark room without an issue with glare. But even so, since its reflection handling is only decent, placing it opposite direct window is not recommended. And since it has narrow viewing angle, it is not suitable for you who often watch sports with a group of your family or friend.

Dark Room Performance: 15%
Bright Room Performancee: 25%
Picture Clarity: 20%
Motion Handling: 25%
Inputs: 10%
Sound Performance: 5%

Score 70/100

Good TVs for a big game with your family

Just like the X85J, the Sony X80J is also good TVs for watching sports. Its good motion handling allows you to watch fast sports smoothly with almost no blur. Its great performance in up-scaling non 4K content also allows you to watch sports from any source in 4K quality with a lot of details are preserved well. In very bright room, performance might be not as good as the X85J due its SDR peak brightness is not as bright as its step up model. But the better point is that it has wide viewing angle, so, when you watch TVs with a group of your family, all of you will get the same viewing quality.

Games

Score 78/100

Good TV for gaming but lacks VRR

In addition to have good motion handling that makes fast games appears smoothly, input lags of the X85J in Games mode also make most games feel responsive. It also has native 120 Hz refresh rate panel and combined to its two HDMI 2.1, this makes it supports future games supported by modern game consoles like PS 5 or Xbox X Series. But unfortunately, it doesn’t support VRR technology that can improve its gaming experience. It HDMI ports also don’t support ALLM, so you must manually change to game mode when you will play games.

Dark Room Performance: 20%
Bright Room Performancee: 20%
Picture Clarity: 5%
Motion Handling: 20%
Inputs: 25%
Sound Performance:10%

Score 71/100

More responsive than X85J, but not support High quality games supported by modern consoles

Just like the X85J, the Sony X80J is actually good TV for games. Combination of its good motion handling and low input lags lest you play fast games responsively with smooth picture quality. Its input lags at 60 Hz is even lower than the X85J, making it is more responsive when used for playing 60 fps content.  But just like the step-up model X85J, it also lacks VRR technology and ALLM. And since it only has native 60 Hz refresh rate panel and don’t have HDMI 2.1, you are not able to play high resolution games that supported by modern games console.

HDR Performance

Score 75/100

Although not excellent, HDR performanc of the X85J is still good while the X80J is not ideal TV for HDR.

Overall, the Sony X85J is better than the X80J for mixed usage. In a dark room, it has much better while when set in a bright room, the X85J is also still better. Additionally, the X85J also has native 120 Hz refresh rate while the X80J only has 60 Hz Refresh rate. Meanwhile, the advantage of the Sony X80J is that it has wide viewing angle coverage, making it is better when used in a bright room or a room with wide seating arrangement for watching TV. So, which is a better choice? This certainly comes back to your own preferences. But as we have discussed, although the X85J is better than X80J for mixed usage overall, but it has narrow viewing angle coverage, so if you often watch TV with your family who sit in wide seating, who sit on edges might get worse viewing experience.  And with the same screen sizes, as the step-up model, the X86J certainly is sold more expensive than the X80J.

Score 63/100

Our Conclusion

Score 77/100

SOny-X85J Review

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The X85J is better than the X80J Overall

Overall, the Sony X85J is better than the X80J for mixed usage. In a dark room, it has much better while when set in a bright room, the X85J is also still better. Additionally, the X85J also has native 120 Hz refresh rate while the X80J only has 60 Hz Refresh rate. Meanwhile, the advantage of the Sony X80J is that it has wide viewing angle coverage, making it is better when used in a bright room or a room with wide seating arrangement for watching TV. So, which is a better choice? This certainly comes back to your own preferences. But as we have discussed, although the X85J is better than X80J for mixed usage overall, but it has narrow viewing angle coverage, so if you often watch TV with your family who sit in wide seating, who sit on edges might get worse viewing experience.  And with the same screen sizes, as the step-up model, the X86J certainly is sold more expensive than the X80J.

Score 63/100

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